Supreme Court upholds Trump decision on transgenders

I thought it’d be funny to use CNN’s take as I’m sure they hate this:

The Supreme Court allowed President Donald Trump’s transgender military ban to go into effect on Tuesday, dealing a blow to LGBT activists who call the ban cruel and irrational.

In an unsigned 5-4 order, the justices took no stance on the legality of the ban, first proposed in a surprise tweet by Trump in 2017, but Tuesday’s action clears the way for it to take effect while lower courts hear additional arguments.
The four liberal justices objected to allowing the administration’s policy banning most transgender people from serving in the military to go into effect.
The policy, first announced by the President in July 2017 via Twitter, and later officially releasedby then-Secretary of Defense James Mattis in 2018, blocks individuals who have been diagnosed with a condition known as gender dysphoria from serving with limited exceptions. It also specifies that individuals without the condition can serve, but only if they do so according to the sex they were assigned at birth.
In a statement released after the Supreme Court action, the Pentagon sought to clarify that its policy is not a ban on all transgender persons from the military.
“As always, we treat all transgender persons with respect and dignity. (The Department of Defense’s) proposed policy is NOT a ban on service by transgender persons. It is critical that DoD be permitted to implement personnel policies that it determines are necessary to ensure the most lethal and combat effective fighting force in the world. DoD’s proposed policy is based on professional military judgment and will ensure that the U.S. Armed Forces remain the most lethal and combat effective fighting force in the world,” Lt. Col. Carla Gleason, a Pentagon spokesperson, told CNN.
Really it’s a no-brainer.  The military should be allowed to determine who is fit to serve and who is not.  If you are confused about what your gender is, maybe, just MAYBE, the military may find that problematic from a cognitive standpoint when it comes to military action.  Probably the same reasoning that’s being used when saying a schizophrenic shouldn’t be serving either.

The beginning of the end for the USA

I’m reading Martin van Creveld’s The Rise and Decline of the State and came across this passage regarding government centralizing services:

By that time even the United States, traditionally the stronghold of rugged individualism and low taxes (to make the House of Lords vote money for his plans, Lloyd George had threatened to create the necessary number of new peers), was feeling the need to do something for its working population.  A modest first step had been taken in 1912 when the Commonwealth of Massachusetts passed a law requiring the payment of minimum wages.  However, it only lasted a few years; in 1923 a Supreme Court decision declared a State of Oregon minimum-wage law for women unconstitutional.  Other measures to extend government control and limit private enterprise were equally unsuccessful.  For example, the number of persons who benefited from a government vocational education scheme instituted in 1917 was so small that statistics about it simply ceased to be published.  In 1920 a law calling for the abolition of child labor failed to make it through Congress.  Five years later, a Kansas law for the compulsory arbitration of industrial disputes was similarly thrown out of the High Court.  In 1929, the last year of prosperity, all American federal welfare expenditure combined only amounted to $0.25 per head of population, which constituted perhaps one percent of its British equivalent.

In the event it took the Great Depression and 12 million unemployed to shake the United States out of the world of laissez faire and into the one in which, whatever the names attached to the various schemes, welfare came to be financed out of taxation.  The foundations were laid in 1933 when President Roosevelt, ignoring howls of Republican opposition, set up the Federal Emergency Relief Agency (FERA).  Its first director was a social worker, Harry Hopkins; armed with a war chest of $500,000,000, it provided work for at least some of those who needed it.  Over the next six years this and numerous other programs led to the spending of some $13 billion over and the construction of 122,000 public buildings, 77,000 bridges, and 64,000 miles of roads inter alia – all, however, without making a real dent in the Depression which only ended in September 1939 when, following the outbreak of war in Europe, the stock exchange went through the roof.

Administratively speaking, the annus mirabilis of the New Deal proved to be 1935.  That year saw the introduction of social security including old-age insurance and assistance, unemployment compensation, aid to dependent children, and aid to the blind.  In 1939 survivors’ and disability insurance, already a standard feature in the most advanced European countries, were added to the list.  By that time every American citizen had been issued with his or her social security card and the Department of Health and Human Services had been created to oversee the system’s operation.  Even the Supreme Court was prepared to cooperate, though not before Roosevelt, having fought a battle royal with Congress, packed it with his own supporters.  In 1937 a Washington State minimum wage law was declared constitutional.  Another ruling did the same for social security itself; the age of big government had truly begun.

If only we could go back to the days where the Supreme Court actually respected the Constitution and “rugged individualism” was the law of the land.  Instead we let the socialists take over and burden us with the albatrosses of welfare and social security, and a bit later open borders.

Self-responsibility is a powerful motivator.  Yes, some people suffered by some of those Supreme Court decisions and yes, some people would have suffered if some of those social service programs weren’t in place (note that these social service programs did not end the Depression).  But you know what?  Having the onus on you and you alone to survive and fulfill your destiny is a powerful motivator.  When there is no guaranteed safety net most people will be motivated to work, or else that’s it.  With that also comes a greater sense of satisfaction.  And it is better for EVERYONE in the long run.  Sometimes we need to let things fail.  Some short-term pain saves a lot worse long-term suffering.  These decisions made decades ago have shackled us and our children and future generations.  They have destroyed far more lives than the few individuals who would have suffered at the time.

Adding these disastrous programs, in combination with the 1965 Immigration Act, which opened the floodgates for people who had no allegiance to the founding of the country and do not have the will (or often the capacity) to possibly live up to the original American ideal, and you have a bonafide disaster on your hands.  The demographic alteration that took place because of that cannot be emphasized enough.  The country, as it was before these social services programs and opening the borders, fundamentally changed forever.  And for the worse.

DACA extension for wall offer

Well, it looks like the Axios report regarding the offer President Trump was going to make at his presser today was correct.  Essentially he offered a three year DACA extension for the $5.7 billion.  Whatever happened to negotiating for $25 billion?  Or building a wall across the entire border, not just certain areas?  Why are we negotiating at all for people who are here illegally anyways?  Are we really so stupid to think that rewarding lawlessness will lead to anything other than encouragement of more lawlessness?

President Trump deserves the benefit of the doubt, for now.  This all could be part of a bigger play.  He may know they won’t take it and he will then have the upper hand over more people in the court of public opinion.  God I hope this is the play.

The more one hears though the more one thinks the country is probably already doomed.  Yes, stopping illegal immigration is a top priority.  But even legal immigration needs a complete makeover.  If we continue to allow any and all people in even legally the demographic complexion of the country will change to something unrecognizable.  We’re already going that way.  I have nothing against Hispanics, or Africans, or anyone else, but I also don’t want to live in a country that’s predominantly Hispanic.  I just don’t.  But that’s the trajectory we are on.  Birth rates and legal and illegal immigration trends point that way.  Do you want to live in a new version of Mexico?  Is it really so racist to bring this up?  To want to live in a country going forward with the same demographic makeup as we had when we were younger?  Would we shame an African for saying he didn’t want to live amongst white people if his country were all of a sudden majority white in his homeland?

It’s probably already too late.  President Trump, for all the good he has done, hasn’t gone far enough and won’t go far enough.  He’s a civic nationalist.  And his ideas, while idealistic, are a bit naive.  Unless legal immigration is brought to a trickle or halted altogether America as we know it will have exactly zero shot of surviving in its current form.  And the result of increased diversity and multiculturalism will inevitably lead to war.  It always does.

A Friendly Reminder

Could you imagine how big a story it would be if it was discovered that a Republican Congressman had a Chinese spy working on his staff for 20 years?  That’s a question posed, surprisingly, by The Washington Post in an article from August of 2018 with regards to the revelation that Diane Feinstein had just that.  It is now six months later and this story has been completely forgotten.  From that article:

Feinstein acknowledged the infiltration but played down its significance. “Five years ago the FBI informed me it had concerns that an administrative member of my California staff was potentially being sought out by the Chinese government to provide information,” Feinstein said in a statement — which means the breach took place while Feinstein was heading the Intelligence Committee. But, Feinstein insisted, “he never had access to classified or sensitive information or legislative matters” and was immediately fired. In other words: junior staffer, no policy role, no access to secrets, quickly fired — no big deal.

But it is a big deal. I asked several former senior intelligence and law enforcement officials how serious this breach might have been. “It’s plenty serious,” one former top Justice Department official told me. “Focusing on his driver function alone, in Mafia families, the boss’s driver was among the most trusted men in the crew, because among other things he heard everything that was discussed in the car.”

A former top CIA clandestine officer explained to me what the agency would do if it had recruited the driver of a senior official such as Feinstein. “We would have the driver record on his phone all conversations that Feinstein would have with passengers and phone calls in her car. If she left her phone, iPad or laptop in the car while she went to meetings, social events, dinners, etc., we would have the driver download all her devices. If the driver drove for her for 20 years, he would probably would have had access to her office and homes. We would have had the source put down an audio device in her office or homes if the opportunity presented itself. Depending on the take from all of what the source reported, we would use the info to target others that were close to her and exhibited some type of vulnerability.”

“In short,” this officer said, “we would have had a field day.”

This would be nonstop coverage from the mainstream media if it were indeed a Republican Congressman.  Don Lemon would be crying and demanding justice on a nightly basis.  Dig a little deeper and you notice that they certainly try to obfuscate this fact and cover it up.  Snopes.com, whom we are to believe is the bastion of truth, says this claim is unproven.  Because any company that does the fact-checking for Facebook should be blindly believed, right?  But we are a society with an ever decreasing attention span, so once a story leaves the news cycle I guess that means the issue is settled, huh?

If the story doesn’t fit the narrative…bury it

CNN requested a local perspective in San Diego regarding the border.  Of course, when the reporter reported that the barrier actually has been working…they no longer wanted the report:

We believe CNN declined a report from KUSI because we informed them that most Border Patrol Agents we have spoken to told us the barrier does in fact work.

We have continuously been told by Border Patrol Agents that the barrier along the Southern border helps prevent illegal entries, drugs, and weapons from entering the United States, and the numbers prove it.

Meanwhile, California has spent $5 billion on a bullet train that isn’t anywhere near completed.  I wonder what one could buy with roughly $5 billion right about now…

#priorities

A Race to the Bottom

As the Government shutdown continues to drag on one thing seems apparent: those opposing the wall are hoping their constituents aren’t paying attention or just don’t care.  Consider a few of the facts presented by President Trump in a letter President Trump sent to Congress earlier this month:

  • In fiscal year (FY) 2018, 17,000 adults at the border with existing criminal records were arrested by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and border agents.
  • In FY2017 and FY2018, ICE officers arrested approximately 235,000 aliens on various criminal charges or convictions within the interior of the United States—including roughly 100,000 for assault, 30,000 for sex crimes, and 4,000 for homicides.
  • We are now averaging 60,000 illegal and inadmissible aliens a month on our Southern Border.
  • Last month alone, more than 20,000 minors were smuggled into the United States.
  • The immigration court backlog is nearly 800,000 cases.
  • There has been a 2,000 percent increase in asylum claims over the last five years, with the largest growth coming from Central America—while around 9 in 10 claims from Central American migrants are ultimately rejected by the immigration courts, the applicant has long since been released into the interior of the United States.
  • In FY2017, roughly 135,000 illegal and inadmissible family units arrived from Central America. Of those, less than 2 percent have been successfully removed from the country due to a shortage of resources and glaring loopholes in our federal laws.
  • So far in FY2019, we have seen a 280 percent increase in family units from FY2018.
  • 300 Americans are killed every week from heroin—90 percent of which floods across our Southern Border.
  • Illegal immigration is a humanitarian crisis: 1 in 3 migrant women is sexually assaulted on the journey northward to the U.S. border; 50 illegal migrants a day are referred for emergency medical care; and CBP rescues 4,300 people a year who are in danger and distress.

That is an airtight case that there is a problem at the border and that a wall is one of many things that needs to be done to help curb the problem.  Then consider that through restructuring NAFTA we are saving billions of dollars (Mexico indirectly paying), or consider the staggering amounts of wasteful government spending that occurs on a daily basis.  Or how about the amount of money we spend on foreign wars that we shouldn’t even be a part of?  Or this; Rand Paul recently tweeted that we give foreign aid to China and borrow money from them to pay them back…

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The point being that we waste so much money on so much crap that even if the wall was a complete waste of money, $5.7 billion dollars is less than a drop in the bucket compared to the amount we spend each year and why not give it a shot to see if it does anything?

It gets even worse.  Chuck and Nancy, the two-headed monster that is the mouthpiece of the opposition party, voted for fencing several times, as did then Senators Obama and Clinton.  We even had the money earmarked for it and the fence was simply never built.  So we’re supposed to take Chuck and Nancy on their word that it’s immoral and just bad for *reasons* while they previously voted for it in the past?  And for the cherry on top, why is it okay that we fund a wall in Jordan but cannot do the same for ourselves?  Why is it okay for Israel to have a wall but not for ourselves?  Did you know Chuck Schumer, as well as many other members of Congress have dual citizenship and are Israeli citizens as well?  Why is it okay for them to defend their borders, Chuck, but we aren’t?

It is clear they do not care about Americans and in fact think so little of us that they think we’re stupid enough to listen to them deride the wall without noticing their past track record or their current stances in general.  It is downright insulting and shows the absolute disdain with which they view the American public.

Which leads to the thrust of the idea.  I really believe these people are hoping that they can dumb down the American public faster than they think we can catch onto their lies.  Watch a news broadcast from even 15 years ago compared to today.  You may once in a while actually find a spirited debate where opposing views are actually debated at the same time and both viewpoints being heard.  Take a look at this video of Jared Taylor talking with Donahue about race in America.  This conversation would NEVER occur today.  They would NEVER want you to hear the facts or hear the viewpoint that Jared brings to the table.  No.  Now segments are one-sided and they are so short nothing of substance is ever said before another commercial break or topic change takes place.  The “opponent” in today’s segments are usually controlled opposition (read: approved).  Sometimes someone like Tucker will get someone on where there is genuine pushback but the segments are so short that neither side can really have the time to get their point across and it often ends in a screaming match that Tucker needs to end because they aren’t getting anywhere.

This isn’t a coincidence.  The mainstream media is dumbing down the American public.  They are removing the critical thinking skills that we all once had in much greater abundance.  Couple that with distracting smart phones, shorter video clips, more commercials, and less people reading, and you get a genuinely dumbed down public.  IQ scores are falling worldwide.  Mainstream media will want you to believe that is due to climate change…but it is more likely due to the reasons stated in the Unz article.  Either way, the fact is they really are falling.  People really are getting dumber.  You are not just imagining it.  And Americans are reading less and less every year which cannot help critical thinking skills or holding attention spans.

All of this adds up to people like Chuck and Nancy thinking they can somehow justify their current position on the wall and not think anyone will notice how patently absurd it is.  Or worse, maybe they do know and just don’t think anyone will care.  Entertainment has been the opiate of the masses.  So long as people are comfortable and distracted many simply will not care about a wall or the hypocrisies of these people.  I fear a majority of the population will be in for a rude awakening when civilization as we know it begins to break down because we never addressed these problems and let them fester and metastasize to the point that they become uncontrollable.  Perhaps we have already passed the point of no return.  The trend certainly seems to be pointing that way.  But maybe it has not.  And I’m thankful we have a President who is standing his ground and genuinely fighting to reverse this trend.

Looking ahead into 2019

There was a lot to be learned in 2018 if one was paying attention.  Here’s a few observations that we can learn from to use in 2019.

The Programming Runs Deep

People really can be programmed.  The more someone listens to the mainstream media news, or talk shows, or Netflix, or a variety of other narrative-approved sources, the stronger the connection.  Scott Adams likens it to two movies on the same screen.  Essentially people’s opinions and thoughts can be altered by the information they allow to feed into their brains.  This sounds obvious on the surface.  But the level of control and the amount of control is scary.  Social engineering.  This has been known for a long time.  Check out Edward Bernays and the Art of Public Manipulation.

It starts small.  Maybe it’s an innocuous image or two of a multi-racial family in a print ad or TV commercial.  Innocent in and of itself until you realize what they’re trying to do.  Or maybe it’s a slight change of lettering or wording.  The Berenstain Bears instead of the Berenstein Bears.  Or inventing terms like Judeo-Christian.  Or how about using Google vs Bing for your search results.  If you can accept that maybe there is a deeper, darker, more sinister objective to these types of seemingly innocent things you can begin to see what is going on.

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This has gone on for years.  It is not a new phenomena.  But it has hit a tipping point with many people.  Changes are happening faster over a shorter time period now.  Heck, look at Democratic talking points from 2018 vs 2008.  A 2008 Democrat was very anti-war.  Now they are mad President Trump is pulling out of an illegal war in Syria.  Once they were for the “little guy”.  Now they are all about big corporation funding.  A fence/wall, which they were all for in 2006 and 2013, is all of a sudden now the hill they’re willing to die on.  Most Democrats weren’t for gay marriage until about 10 years ago either.  Nor were they for illegal immigration.

All this is to say to be careful about what you watch and what you allow your loved ones to watch.  They do not report the news in an unbiased manner.  They have an agenda.  Look up who owns the NY Times or the Washington Post.  Do you really think these billionaires don’t have an ulterior motive other than presenting the news and facts as they are?  Of course not.  It’ll only get worse.  And the inversion of our values will only get worse.

For better or worse, it’s made me question a lot of the things I once took for granted.  We’ll get into this more later this year but even things like the moon landing are now questionable events that I once took for undisputed truth.  You will never go wrong by pursuing the truth.  You may get led down dark paths and discover things you never wanted to know, but this is ALWAYS preferable to lying to yourself.  Once you lie to yourself you can rationalize all sorts of evil and undesirable behavior and actions.

Evil is Real

This ties in a bit with the first point.  True evil does exist out there.  We’ve spoken about the rampant pedophelia problem in DC and Hollywood.  One of the ways the Cabal controls people is through blackmail.  Subscribe to Owen Benjamin if you want a rational, down to Earth view of the dark, sinister shit that goes on in these circles.  He was in these circles but couldn’t give in to the evil that necessarily seems to go along with making it “big” in Hollywood or DC.

Evil is real.  Sometimes it’s easier to spot evil than it is to spot good.  For me, I began to really notice and take seriously true evil around the time of Pizzagate.  That link is a pretty good starting point.  Check out neonrevolt.com and crazydaysandnights.net to go down that rabbit hole a little bit more.  It is not for the faint of heart.  If you can accept that evil is a real thing then you are on the path to truth.  It has rejuvenated my interest in Christianity, something I took for granted but now realize how much it has shaped our civilization and we’ve all gotten a glimpse of what a post-Christian Western civilization world looks like without it.  It is not pretty.  If you can accept that true evil exists then that is a good starting point to seeing that truth and true good also exists.  This is the path to Christ.

Protect Yourselves

2018 saw an unprecedented amount of censorship and deplatforming.  Dissident personalities like Alex Jones were rigorously ostracized and attacked for having views that did not fit with the accepted narrative.  Alternative news sources and individuals were demonetized and deplatformed on Twitter and YouTube like never before.  This is not an accident.  They are trying to silence the voices of those who speak truth and offer alternative viewpoints to the thoughts and opinions they want you to think.  “They” being the Master of the Universe aka Silicon Valley and their Deep State backers.  The cat is out of the bag.  This isn’t some tinfoil hat conspiracy theory anymore.

It’s a dangerous time to be a conservative in America.  You can easily be doxxed and have your life ruined for sharing your opinions.  I debated using a pseudonym or not when starting this site.  It’s certainly a risk to use one’s real name these days.  Be careful with what you post.  Consider what is at stake and what you’re willing to risk to share your opinions.  One should always post and profess the truth.  Just be careful with whom and how you share the truth.  It is not an even playing field out there.

2019 is going to be a good year.  The pieces are in place to have the hammer drop on the swamp creatures in DC and Hollywood.  Let’s learn from what happened in 2018 and continue to grow and adapt.  The attacks that come at us will only make us stronger.  Our arguments and positions are sharpened from all the criticism and vitriol.  We are antifragile.

A Glimpse Into Multiculti America

Check out what was spotted in New York City earlier this month:

New York’s Muslim community has a new security group watching over it.

A car from the new Muslim Community Patrol has been spotted around the city, joining the Jewish enclave’s Shomrim and the Brooklyn Asian Safety Patrol among New York’s culture-specific security groups.

The white Ford Taurus bears insignia nearly identical to those of an NYPD patrol car — with blue horizontal stripes down the sides, a shield on the front driver’s side door and the words “Muslim Community Patrol” descending on the rear door, where a department vehicle would say “Courtesy Professionalism Respect.”

The vehicle was recently spotted cruising along Fifth Avenue in Brooklyn’s Bay Ridge, home to a burgeoning Muslim population.

Is this really the country that we want?  Where every group of people has their own patrols for their own neighborhoods?  This is not assimilation.  This is tribalism.  And not surprising at all when you bring in wildly different groups of people and expect them to live together.  Inevitably they will group off into their own enclaves and continue to fracture the communities.

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This is one step closer to Sharia law creeping in, too.  Yes, people will explode when you say that.  They will say that you are overreacting.  They also told us loosening immigration laws wouldn’t change the demographic of the country.  It is simply inevitable if you let things continue to go unhindered.  Sharia is an inevitability once there is a critical mass of Muslims to vote the policy into place.  Never forget that these different groups of people are not assimilating into American culture and becoming “Americans”, whatever that even means anymore.  And it will only get worse.  We’re already at a point where Hispanics do not even bother to learn English anymore.  They don’t have to!  There’s enough Hispanics who speak Spanish that one can get by without learning English.  And we’ve only accommodated them further by making all of our signs English and Spanish.

This isn’t very hard to see.  Follow the current trends to their logical conclusions.  We’ve already fundamentally and nearly irreversibly changed the composition of the American demographics.  That is our new reality.  Just how far will this have to go before it is reversed either violently with civil war or somewhat rationally through the political system.  Given the current political climate I’m not holding my breath that this can end civilly.  It would be prudent to prepare and arm yourselves to protect your family and loved ones going forward.  All of the signs are there.  It would be folly to ignore them.

Do Not Give An Inch

President Trump has been on a tear the past few days lambasting the Democrats about the wall.  A small snippet of his tweet storm:

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This is a winning issue and thank God President Trump isn’t backing down from the wall funding.  This is only going to make the Democrats look worse, especially when he puts it into perspective the money that we’re giving other countries in aid or the money we SPEND to protect other countries.

It will get more interesting the longer this shutdown drags out.  Food stamp money will run out at the end of January which really could go either way.  The MSM peddling their lies and putting the shutdown on Trump won’t look good for him.  But Trump has an entire month of nonstop tweeting he can do to get his message out and rightly pin this on the Democrats.  Remember, a bill passed through the House to fund $5.7B towards the wall.  There is a majority of the Senate who would approve it.  If only Chuck Schumer would allow it they would be able to get the votes to push the funding through.

President Trump needs to stand firm at this point until the Democrats cave or unless he has another trick up his sleeve to fund the wall a different way.  He shouldn’t worry about the optics.  Caving now or in the near future will only make him look bad on both sides.  His supporters desperately want the wall.  They will not falter.  The left hates him already anyways so there’s really nothing to lose by continuing to hold out.  And when more and more on the left realize that it’s such a paltry amount of money compared to the money we waste on a daily basis it will only make their leaders look that much worse as they remain petulant children and prevent the funding from going through.  Especially when President Trump continues to hammer home the point that Obama, Hillary, Chuck, Nancy, and many others all voted for fence/wall funding in the not so distant past.

In 2018 we only saw the degradation of the law and of principles in general.  How many politicians were shown and proven with evidence to have lied or broken the law and had nothing happen?  How many citizens of a preferred race, religion, or gender have gotten away with breaking the law because they are part of a privileged class that is given a free pass?  The more the fabric of our society frays with inaction and no punishment when punishment is due the worse things will get.  People will no longer respect the rule of law, and nobody wants to go down that road.  Things will get ugly quickly.

President Trump is right to hold out for the wall funding on principle alone.  The fact that it is entirely justified and desperately needed only strengthens his position.  It says all you need to know about our ersatz “leaders” when they berate President Trump for pulling out of an illegal war that cost us billions of dollars but will lambast him incessantly for wanting to spend a small sum to protect our own borders.  Their allegiances do not lie with the United States of America.  Never forget that.

Now they can take your firearms on hearsay

Via a Fox News article earlier this week:

A middle school student in Vermont helped avert a possible school shooting after overhearing two classmates discussing bringing guns to campus, police say.

Investigators said a concerned parent from Middlebury Union Middle School called police on Saturday to inform them their child had expressed concern “over some conversation this student was privy to, where there was talk about using firearms to harm people in school.”

Middlebury Police Chief Tom Hanley told the Addison Independent on Tuesday that police and school officials immediately launched a probe into the allegation over the weekend.

“By early Monday, we had identified two people, one of whom had made a specific threat against a specific person in the school, with a date and time on when this was going to happen,” he told the newspaper.

He said the two 14-year-old students were planning to get guns from a relative and bring them to school on Tuesday.

“You had one juvenile making a very specific threat, another juvenile who was going to provide the guns for him to carry it out,” Hanley said. “There are relationship issues between all the people involved. We’re still getting through a lot of that.”

Prosecutors got an Extreme Risk Order and seized the guns from the relative’s home and police got the Vermont Department for Children & Families involved.

Hanley said more than 10 weapons were confiscated from the home, largely consisting of hunting rifles and handguns. He told the Independent he doesn’t believe any semi-automatic assault rifles or shotguns were among the confiscated weapons.

To recap:  student allegedly overhears two other students talking.  Student A wants to do harm to another student, C.  Student B is to get the firearms from a relative.

That alone appears to be all that was needed to confiscate this person’s firearms.  The relative, who had NOTHING to do with the entire incident, is now without firearms for who knows how long.

This story will be touted as a great example of “see something, say something” and as a crisis averted.  But the real story is how easy it is to take away someone’s firearms under totally unconstitutional grounds.  Again, the relative had nothing to do with the situation and unless the story is leaving something out posed no risk themselves to the threatened student in question.  Think about how dangerous a precedent this says.  There was no proof provided that what the initial student was even saying was an actual true story.  Does this mean I can allege I overheard a relative of Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi supposedly threaten someone with their guns and have their guns taken away?  Is this all it takes?

Obviously there is room to abuse this to disarm people.  It is not an overreaction to think that, especially given how under attack our second amendment rights are.